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polishpimping (profile) wrote,
on 7-1-2003 at 12:50am
There are some things I hate when people do.

I'm sorry Joe but you've been doing a lot of them recently.

I don't like it when people make negative generalizations about the military. All but one of my friends from high school enlisted. It's a touchy subject. I'm sorry.

I don't like it when people hold double standards about values. When people feel the need to force their beliefs on you, while also saying that you should be more accepting.

I don't like it when people make fun of their parents for caring. I'm sorry, maybe I'm old fashioned but if a mother cares too much, it makes her overprotective and not a "Bitch".

I really hate when people hold double standards about sexual orientation. I don't like it when someone reffers to a gay man, who becomes straight, as fucked in the head, when if a differant person was straight and became gay you'd probably bake him a fucking cake.

I also hate when people dis agree with someone about their sexual orientation. If someones gay, that's great. If there straight, also great. But if you don't agree with their choice, don't belittle their decission by calling them "fucked in the head".

I believe that the best way to enact change is to do so slowly and with time put forth to make sure understanding is reached. I'm sure if everyone knew someone like Joe they wouldn't feel quite as awkward about being around them. But in case you haven't noticed I haven't showered with Joe....

I believe that there is a differance between accepting Gays as equals and wanting to shower with them. I'm sorry but the uncomfortableness cannot be ignored. Maybe if they had seperate shower stalls...

I accept, I believe, I recognize.
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valoticus

07-01-03 1:13am

very well put my dear. both of your points are well organized and well explained.

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polishpimping

Re:, 07-01-03 1:18am

Both?
I tried to make several points...

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valoticus

Re: Re:, 07-01-03 3:29am

sorry i meant both you as in joe and yourself


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mbenznut

07-01-03 1:52am

I think you proved my points better than your own. You have taken what I have written and re-written it as you read it. They are two very different things. Every time you have written “Fucked in the head” you have put quotations around it as if that is what I wrote. Go back and look, that is not the wording I used.

You have also made assumptions on part of the picture. You have never met my mother to know why I can’t stand her. I write the biggest points in my journal, I do not feel the need to explain every detail about my decision making process here. But it is becoming more and more necessary for some folk.

Everything has negative points, why should the military be treated any differently. If I have a problem with something, I bring it up.

You also keep on bringing up forcing beliefs upon people. No matter how you explain it, acceptance of people for who they are, is very much different than them forcing who they are upon you. A man being openly gay is not forcing his beliefs upon you. It is he being himself.

Just a side point, you need not worry if you were to shower with me, you’re safe.

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polishpimping

Re:, 07-01-03 2:45am

by paragraph...

#1) This would be nitpicky anyway but what the hell... Sure you didn't use that specific language in woohu... but in our actual coversations...

mbenznut (10:15:14 AM): If you're ignoring your own feelings and trying to be someone else, that qualifies as fucked in the head to me.

(Thank you DeadAIM)

#2) I was just talking about what I knew at the time. I'm sorry.

#3) The list I gave was for the most part just pet peeves anyway. Feel free to make disparaging remarks about the military, or call you mother a "Bitch" just expect that it will make me arguementative. It will make me argue points I don't believe just so I can argue. Sorry.

#4) I agree with you, dammit! I just think that the change should be brought slowly to minimize the violence that will occur.

#5) I'd better damn well be safe. You may have been to drunk to remember but while I was helping you into your room. You wanted me to sleep with you. I don't just mean in the same bed either. I played it off as you just being drunk, but that is one million times worse than the uncomfortablenes of showering, Joe.

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