hmm, 09-13-03 3:48pm

as i sit here choosing between doing my bio stuff or reading your woohu journal... well you won. ;-)
It seems to be a reoccuring pattern that you are posting on tues and thursdays... :-)and to respond to the comment that there are some who hate markgraf and some that hate lerner and some that are inbetween... well i think i'm about the only person that is inbetween... it's just that you get to see a different side to markgraf that i don't get to see alot of the time and amy sees another totally different side to markgraf that we never see either... and in 3rd hour... markgraf doesn't talk... lerner does all the teaching so how else am i supposed to get a real good opinion of markgraf when the only time I get to actually interact with him is during lunch? I mean I love the fact that markgraf is someone that I can not be afraid to talk to about things and someone that can make me laugh and truely cares about us as individuals, but then again... there are times when he really gets to me... he was hired as the assitant director... not the head director... lerner is in charge of things and he's so jealous of lerner... and while lerner does stupid things, it is not markgraf's job to run the band... he's there to help lerner with whatever lerner needs help with... and i don't like the way he screams at the battery... he might be all fun and relaxed with you guys but he screams his head off at the bass drums even when they were messing up a tiny bit... on the other hand there is lerner... this guy knows his stuff... he knows how to make a good band... concert band that is... he knows how to achieve balance and blend and all that other musical stuff... after only an hour we improved soooo much on the star spangled banner... i want to sound good... i'm tired of sounding horrible... but on the other hand lerner has his flaws too... he always thinks he's right... and concert band wise i can't think of a time when he he hasn't benn... marching band... well that's another story... he had no idea what he was talking about when he wanted us to march off playing the fight song... it sounded and looked like crap... i don't care what lerner and ale say (just to let u know before we preformed ale gave the band a little speech about how we really didn't look that bad and the fight song wasn't terribly horrible)... he's so stubborn and his whole... your opinion doesn't matter the least bit really got to me... maybe it's because we're used to the officers and students running the band or lerner has his head so far up in the clouds that he doesn't think anyone is right but him... i personally think it is a combonation of those two... so just to let you know... i don't know... and i'm sorry to those that get angry about me being indesisive... i just can't choose one or the other... band has put me on such an emotional roller coaster like it has u lauren... i can't believe that i couldn't stop crying about band after practice on thursday... it makes me so upset to think that there is a rift in the band too... but i can't "choose" one side or the other... because while i value your opinion alot i also take into account what amy says and what nikki says and what adam says... i don't know if there will ever be a time where i can pick one... they're just people and they do stupid things but i really really think they both have good intentions deep down just like (hmm... i wonder how many people will attempt to kill me after i say this...) just like stoneman had even though she didn't know what she was doing either...
Ok i'll stop my little whatever... it's just that both of them have good sides and bad sides and sometimes i don't think that many of u guys are giving either of them the credit they deserve
as for french club... i'm really sorry... i do know how u feel to loose an election that you wanted so bad to win because you deserved it... it really really sucks but unlike me... u do have next year...
Ya i know... shut up krystle... i'm done now

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Re: hmm, 09-13-03 6:10pm

You deserved to win that position. I can't BELIEVE she won.. geez!
Woot! No more history essays! Where can I sign myself in?

I'm so proud!! You memorized all of it?! That's so amazingly great! BRAVO!
Not responding.. not responding... You know my view well enough on Markgraf, pit, band, etc. And you forgot to mention the people who hate both, regardless of what day it is.

Alright.. I'm restraining myself here in saying no. Don't even think about putting that 'breaking a record' in. Cause you have no idea what it's like. And I can't BELIEVE what happened last night. (Ask Leah.) Oh, and yes, I have tried the marimba by myself thing. As well as the bell kit and xylophone. Unity is important and because of the amount of kids in that pit and the fact that most are freshmen greatly enhances the ties.


and i don't like the way he screams at the battery... he might be all fun and relaxed with you guys but he screams his head off at the bass drums even when they were messing up a tiny bit...
Thank you Krystle, I appreciate it.

I agree.. different people see different sides and tell you stories of different things. You can only decide on what you see, what you know, and how each has affected you overall. And it has been decided in my section that we prefer Voldemort. Yes, I said it. Call us the Death Eaters then because she is better at marching band then both Lerner and Markgraf (combined or seperate). She let the drum majors and officers lead. She left traditions intact. She was more open to suggestions and views.

And not shut up Krystle. You have a right to say that stuff too.

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Re: Re: hmm, 09-14-03 4:35pm

All right... I keep forgetting what the first part of this said, so I'll answer stuff in little compartments. It's Sunday, btw, so I have the benefit of hindsight for a lot of this. Yepyep...

That song just about describes this year so far. I'm so sorry about French Club. :*( I would have voted for you if I was in it! That sucks so much though, and it's NOT fair that someone totally new should be an officer. There is nothing wrong with you, it's them. Can I get a cell near you? Anything to weasel out of history. I hate that damn class and I hate Mr. Hall, the f-ing perfectionist and his trick essay questions. [/end rant]

As for the Lerner/Markgraf debate, my two cents is basically: I'll only take Markgraf because he appears to me to be the lesser of the two evils. Lerner would be okay for JUST concert band, because that's the only think he ever freaking thinks about. Markgraf is the only one that has a clue when it comes to marching band and is not obsessed with the freaking concert festival. But the way he treats drumline just pisses me off. He has no right to scream at them for minor errors on music he has changed that day from the way it has been for 5 years. It just isn't fair. He picks on the battery, and especially Ian and the bases. Although I like that he hates Lerner, it really isn't right for him to undermine his authority by making faces behind his back as he talks or saying things about how Lerner never listens. (I'm glad to know he doesn't agree, that someone does have an ounce of sense, but it's still not right. It's very unprofessional.) The way he treats drumline though... it's making a negative impression on our new people. He won't even listen when they try to bring up what their problems are. At the game, he was standing right in front of me while we were waiting around to play the SSB and Paul came down to ask if two of the bases could switch just for the stand music. One of the ones that wanted to switch (Mike) came down too after a minute and Markgraf was very condescending to them. All they wanted was permission to switch, and he acted like they were too stupid to figure out how to do it themselves or something. After they went back he was like 'That's not so hard is it? They get so worked up over little things like that!' to us. It's not okay for him to make fun of perc to other sections, or to shred 'em up in front of us. He should have been happy they asked permission after the way he bitches about everything they do. That's just another part of the rift in the band.

Well, I'm rambling and rambling, but a lot of this should really be directed more at the directors themselves rather than your journal... Good job with your music, we need people that know their show. : D

As for Voldemort... she might have been more open that Lerner, but she did get us an excellent. And she took away so many freedoms that it makes me mad to remember. I'm glad she's gone, but I'm not exactly happy with this new situation either. I don't know which group I really fall into, Lauren, maybe I'm a floater. I see positives with both, but all the negatives are turning me off to band. The only things keeping me in are the games and CAS hours, and now the games don't even have Drum Wars. :*(

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Re: hmm, 09-15-03 5:30pm

I mean I love the fact that markgraf is someone that I can not be afraid to talk to about things and someone that can make me laugh and truely cares about us as individuals
That's exactly what I'm talking about in terms of markgraf. I dont know about anyone else, but that makes me like a person. All those things. Although he does have his flaws, he must be frustrated, or atleast I would be, because he isnt doing anything. Lerner will not let him do anything at all. The only thing he does is steel drum class. That would really get to me, just having to sit there. And on those things that lerner doesnt know what he's talking about in marching, he should know when he doesnt know what he's talking about and not be too pig headed to take some advice or suggestions. All the things that we're complaining about, well, I cant say all, but a lot, markgraf agrees with us, and has said stuff to lerner. It just pisses me off that markgraf suggests something, amy and laurel suggest something, ale suggests something, the entire officer corps suggests something...he still will not listen at all. I think he needs to take whatever it is (a grape, lol) out of his ass and realize that no matter what system he had set up in his other school, this band does NOT belong to him. It is ours. He did not have to deal with all the shit we did. He did not go through not having a director, having a rotating door of directors, whatever you want to put here. He just shows up and we're supposed to do absolutely everything he says? I'm sorry, I know he's in charge, but he has got to be willing to compromise atleast a little bit here.
And no one is mad at you for being a floater. I did not mean for that whole deal to come off as derogatory, it's just a classification. I am not asking you to take what I say here and make it your opinion, I am merely expressing my viewpoints from what I have experienced. I totally get where you're coming from. And I know that voldemort had good intentions. She was just full of crap. That's why we hated her. I honestly am starting to believe, responding to different things I have heard/read, that people forget a lot about her. I dont know if you guys all remember at all how rude she was. And I know that she took our suggestions, but that was because she had absolutely no idea what she was doing. She was just as bad as having no director, because the officers ran the band.
As far as French club goes, I see no reason why I should run again next year. Why? So I can go through last week all over again??? I'm just not gonna win. It was even worse because I really thought that I had that thing... And no shut up krystle. Go for it.

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Re: Re: hmm, 09-15-03 5:36pm

Alright, death eater, I am now convinced that no matter what, percussion will not be happy. Well, I shouldnt say that, because we dont really have a whole lot of selection, but you guys HATED stoneman with a passion! You were so upset last year all the time! The grass is always greener...

different people see different sides and tell you stories of different things. You can only decide on what you see, what you know, and how each has affected you overall.

That is exactly what I have been saying this whole time. Let me say it one more time: this journal is not meant in any way to influence people. This is just how I have been affected by things and the opinions I have formed based only on those affects. I have decided not to take anyone's opinion into account, because I think it is unfair to hate the director just because someone else does. Just as I do not expect anyone to make their opinions of people based solely on this journal or what I say. That's about it, except for another yay me for being able to play all the music! :-)

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Re: Re: Re: hmm, 09-15-03 5:42pm

Amanda, sorry, but you have the fortune of being last on the list of LONG LONG LONG posts that I had to reply to. You can find your reply buried in the other 2 replies, but as of now...I'm too lazy to write another one. Good day.

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Re: Re: Re: hmm, 09-15-03 5:59pm

Oh we sure did hate her with a passion. There were times I was ready to fling my drum at her, as were the others. But this time... this time we're beyond being upset. It is so much more. You guys will all be surprised when you see drumline next... And it will be bad.
I do say, we have a right to not be happy. Not going to start that whole 'discussion' again but we do have the right to be upset. And don't even try to say pit is fine with him or it all.

I will apologize for how my posts sound and what I say and how I end up saying it. Bad times leave me with little in the way of kind and sympathetic wording when I feel a personal hit.
You do have the right to post whatever you feel like posting here, I choose to read and post, and I know no one will be convinced to change their ways either way by what is said here.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: hmm, 09-15-03 6:19pm

Well now! : P Hahaha.

Kristen, I SO would have LOVED to see her get hit with a drum, I'm sorry you didn't do it. And YES, it would have been worth suspension. ; D

- Your new friendly neighborhood apocalyptic terror. (You know, the poker chips tell all...)

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hmm, 09-15-03 8:25pm

NICE! The poker chips are great.

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