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polishpimping (profile) wrote,
on 10-19-2003 at 12:11am
Jeremy,

Sorry if I confuse you, so I’ll put this as simple as possible.

You’re an ass.

As soon as someone is of no use to you anymore you toss him or her aside like trash. There are several people who are on your bad side now just because you don’t have a use for them (Krystal and Molly).

You are the most two faced, manipulative and all around conniving people I know and frankly I am getting tired of it. You try to constantly turn people against each other so that the will not turn on you.

This is shown most vividly in the dynamics between you, Andy and I. In the beginning of the year you would try to turn me against Andy by making shrewd assumptions about how I felt. You would generalize and say things such as “You hate his computer desk”, and “You hate how he is always on the computer” and eventually you got to the point where you inferred that I hate him. I don’t hate Andy. I’ve never hated Andy. Luckily when you realized that I could not be turned against Andy, you left me be.

You haven’t left Andy be, however. You have constantly instigated verbal conflicts in between he and I by forcing him to be defensive by insulting him yourself. You get him in a bad mood, and that makes it very difficult for me not to place myself on his good side. You probably never notice, but when no one else is around Andy and I get along great. He and I are, and hopefully always will be, great friends.

I only have one qualm with Andy right now though…

No matter how much you mistreat him, he will never turn away from you.

He doesn’t care that you thought it was hilarious that you were having wine night the weekend he was out of town.

He doesn’t care that you made him pay way to much for what was left over, even though it tasted like shit (and I don’t recall you paying Joe for it).

He only was slightly annoyed when after you sold him the liqueur, you forbade him from drinking in your room.

And after all that, he had nothing but high things to say about you, when he decided that he would rather be your bitch than my friend.

I hope you will let me know if you have trouble understanding this post…

I’ll spell it out to you if need be.
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jhight1314

10-19-03 12:53am

Let me go through this point by point. So bear with me.

I throw people aside? Ok, lets see. I still talk to Krystal daily, going with her to lunch today. I don't cater to her simply because she is injured like everyone else is doing, but that isn't some terrible act. I wouldn't expect people to do it for me. As for Molly, she pretty much threw me away. She found more excitement talking to old friends, ex's, and random people on the internet than talking to me. I couldn't stand forcing more than two word answers or just leaving the room, so I decided it was best to just leave things be. I still talk to her, its not like I am mean to her. Its just obvious now than when I don't make the effort, I won't see much of her.

As for the Andy, you, and I dynamic, it is a fucked up situation as is. I sit there and listen to your gripes and agree with you, because no one is perfect. We all have our flaws and when one of you is complaining about an obvious gripe, then I can't help but agree. I most of the time take cues from people though. For instance, you complain about Andy saying Fight Club was a bad movie even though throughout it, he was playing on the computer. I say "Ya, he is on his computer a lot and didn't really pay attention."

As for me making fun of Andy, me and him have talked about it. It is basically just a big long stupid joke, like when we argue.

You can have your qualms with Andy about me, but you aren't very different. You were laughing along side me when Joe decided to do wine night (it wasn't really my decision, I got a IM in the morning from Joe saying "I guess wine night is planned for tonight and I'll stop by after work, call me if plans change.") That in my mind isn't so bad because me and Joe had been talking about it for about a week before and while drunk, I brought it up again with him and we set it up.

He paid $7 for half of a box of wine, which I would have drank anyways. If you remember wine night, Joe and I decided that during a future run for alcohol, the debt would be paid back. So no, I haven't paid for it yet, but I am still in debt to Joe for it.

I brought up no one being able to drink in my room for a full week before Andy and I bought beer, even you agreed. I told Andy, but he must not have been paying attention. It has happened, just today he was complaining about Hatcher being out for the Wings, which I told him about earlier but he wasn't listening. So it was a communication error.

Andy has said nothing about not being your friend, as far as I know. I don't even talk about you other than when I saw your post earlier today. You can say that he is being my bitch, but he is just being a friend. I can't say the same about you, though, have you ever tried to even talk to me one on one about the matter? No, instead you say how Andy is my bitch or just be an ass to me. I wouldn't be suprised if you were telling other people how I was being an ass, too, of course, avoiding confrontation with me because you can't bring yourself to talk to friends cordially if something bad comes up. Instead, you just act like a child.

The same thing happened last year. I would talk to you about Mel not talking to me about anything, while you were talking to her about me all the time, and wouldn't give me any insight into what I was doing wrong. You grew to hate me because of it, even though you could have directly solved your own problem. You always make things tough for yourself then get mad when you don't get sympathy.

Well, I am done with the conversation, hate me all you like, I don't care. I can grow and learn, knowing from past mistakes. I wonder if you can ever do the same.

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mbenznut

Re:, 10-19-03 5:10pm

Very well put.

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