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spud (profile) wrote,
on 10-20-2005 at 7:14pm
Current mood: curious
Music: the police - king of pain
Subject: Harry Potter
okay. i reread the whole damn thing. all six books.

i'm firmly convinced that Regulus Black took slytherin's locket, the real horcrux.

and i've decided that, although there's evidence supporting both sides of the argument, i would say snape is evil and dumbledore is definitely dead. but really there's no conclusive evidence. and my reasoning is from the perspective of the author.

she (through dumbledore) has said that there are worse things than death, death is nothing to be afraid of, etc. so, really dumbledore's death wouldn't be devastating or tragic. and just the things he does leading up to the incident. i don't think he KNEW what exactly was happening, which clashes with his characteristic omniscience, but he wouldn't lie to harry. he has proven in the past to withhold certain things from harry until such time as harry is ready to hear them, but he's never actually lied to harry, or put on an act like that. and i don't see how it would be beneficial in this instance for him to do so.

and as far as snape goes, he's always been controversial. voldemort and dumbledore are both extremely powerful, and so snape could be lying to one just as likely as to the other. and i suspect that it's in his nature to use people to go places in the world, and he could obviously go farther with voldemort than with dumbledore. and dumbledore has also admitted in the past to making mistakes of judgement, and why would snape be any exception. this isn't verbatim, but he says "being rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes seem to be proportionally huger." snape was just a huge mistake. and there are the magical implications that he died. his spell over harry being instantly broken. his picture in the headmistress's office.

they didn't turn his hat inside out, or break his wand. i have no answer to those arguments. and it may be that fawkes regenerated him or whatever. but it really just seems against rowling's style. i mean. sirius is dead. harry's parents are dead. and yet, they've reappeared in some ways for harry, but never by coming back to life.

i'm sure there are surprises in book 7. surprises up the wazoo. because that's totally her style. i'm sure there's something up with aunt petunia. that may come into play when he goes back to privet drive. and he's going back to Godric's hollow. and he's going back to grimmauld place for sure: he has to retrieve slytherin's locket, once he realizes where it is. and the wedding at the burrow. the hufflepuff horcrux. the gryffindor/ravenclaw horcrux. then the snake and voldemort himself. marvolo's ring was in the gaunt shack. the locket was at the cave. there's gotta be something in little hangleton at the riddle house, i'm sure. surely not at the orphanage? maybe. i don't know. borgin & burke's? nah. there's gotta be more to the story. have to go back to the facts again. write them down.

but i'm sure dumbledore's dead dead dead. and i am equally sure that he hasn't left harry alone. maybe unprotected, yes, but certainly not unaided. there's still aberforth. and maybe slughorn and everyone in the order/hogwarts. yeah! the order! they're all still there. now that dumbledore's gone, they're bound to look to harry. i don't know. i'm starting to confuse myself.

she's got something up her sleeve. i know she does. in the meantime, we'll wait. there's definitely a theme about pushing the boundaries of magic, and how there's a line that sometimes gets crossed. it's gotta be a commentary on the scientific revolution.

if this doesn't have a good ending like lord of the rings did, mark my words, there'll be blood.
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cowsgomoo!!!

10-20-05 7:37pm

i agree... there will be suprises up the ass. And with all the suprises better be a good ending.

-me

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liz

10-20-05 8:39pm

I find you astounding. And at the same time fabulous and here I am thinking that no one like Harry Potter as much as I do. You never cease to amaze me chris. rock on.

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spud

Re:, 10-20-05 9:56pm

yeah. don't let jackie catch you fawning over me... lol.

do you have anything to add to my observations... or refute?

i heard there was a club here. but they're all probably too busy reading book 6 for the 25th time this summer to come out of their rooms, right?

sarar likes them too. you should talk to her also.

she showed me dumbledoreisnotdead.com .

not to mention harry potter has kind of been our love connection for several years now. because he's suave like that.

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sugarjackj

Re: Re:, 10-21-05 9:23am

wtf?

good god man.

I'm not THAT crazy.

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spud

Re: Re: Re:, 10-21-05 10:28am

naw, i was just kidding.

this whole intertron-sarcasm thing just does not work for me.

looking forward to seeing you this weekend maybe ish.

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tabletop

10-21-05 12:18am

I think Snape is still good. Mainly I say that becuase of Dumbledore's last words and the argument hagrid overheard about how maybe Snape "doesn't want to do it anymore." Dumbledore is definitely dead, and if he isn't, I will be upset. It would cheapen the whole thing.
I missed the Regulus Black idea, I think you're probably right. But wouldn't he have destroyed the horcrux? In that case, Potter wouldn't have to go to grimmauld place. He probably will go though, but I don't think for that reason.
I think the fact that Hermione and Ron are with him will have a lot to do with the final battle. It's that love thing again.
I just had a slight brainwave. What if Harry has to do the same thing as his mother did for him, but for one of his friends? Kinda like a christlike sacrifice. I haven't really thought about that in depth, it just kinda occured to me now.
I don't have all six books to go through, the first three I read in school, and I got the fifth one from the library, so I only have the last two.
Anyway yeah.

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spud

Re:, 10-21-05 10:33am

yeah. that seems plausible. but still, why would he kill dumbledore unless it was on dumbledore's orders?

and why would dumbledore pretend he didn't know? he's never lied to harry like that before.

i don't think snape is completely evil. just evil enough to not be good anymore. i guess we'll see. i stole the Regulus Black idea from Entertainment Weekly.

but, having gone back through, it's no longer just a suspicion. it's pretty solid fact. it just makes sense. it's someone who knew voldemort personally, who was killed, but not before actively working against him. it just fits. and it shows that he had a change of heart in the end, which would mean that, being related to sirius, he was able to do good as well.

glad to hear somebody else is thinking about this stuff.

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tabletop

Re: Re:, 10-23-05 5:43am

I believe it was on Dumbledore's orders, thus the "Please Severus" and the argument. Snape didn't want to kill him, Dumbledore ordered him to.
Dumbledore didn't say that Snape wasn't going to kill him, he just said that he trusted him completely. He pretended not to know/believe about Draco too, but he knew about that since the beginning.

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spud

Re: Re: Re:, 10-23-05 11:05pm

yeah. i believe that.

i still don't get why harry couldn't know, though. i mean, why would dumbledore have hidden it from harry? i just doesn't make sense.

but i still buy your story.

i guess we'll have to wait and see!

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phil-himself

10-21-05 10:12am

you guys are a bunch of dorks, just putting it out there

and this is coming from the guy that dressed up and got a lightsaber to see star wars

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spud

Re:, 10-21-05 10:26am

yeah. i like being in the honors college. spending an hour makes me feel like king cool, compared to some of the übernerds running around there.

seriously good ego-boost.

but not enough to compete with the coolness of Teh Fil.

sorry to disappoint you. ;)

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phil-himself

Re: Re:, 10-21-05 10:41am

you know I'm joshin

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