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m&ms487 (profile) wrote,
on 3-15-2007 at 12:03am
So, Barack Obama. Yeah. He pretty much makes we want to cream my pants. Figuratively speaking, at least.

I just got done watching him give a speech at a fire fighter conference on C-Span. Of course, it was a lot about his campaign, and his stance on ISSUES.


Anyway, for all of you complaining that he doesn't have a stance, he does, and here are a few of them:

1. Iraq War: He is currently drawing up a plan (with other Senators) to withdraw troops from Iraq. He has never believed that war was the way to go and that the war has no military solution, and we shouldn't be in the middle of another country's civil war. His plan outlines that troop withdrawl begins May 2007, and ends ten months later on March 1, 2008.

2. Health Care: America spends more than any other country in the world on health care (about $8 billion), yet there are many families who avoid doctor visits because they cost more than they make in a week. He, along with other Democrats, really believe in Universal Health Care. I know, I know, I'm not quite sure how this would all work. But, it's worked for Canada and Great Britian, and everyone would be covered.

3. Veterans/ War Injuries: Of course issues like the Walter Reed Veteran's hospital have been really upfront lately. He is encouraging more funding for Veteran hospitals, and healthcare for veterans in general.

4. Energy: Wants to start working with car manufacturers to use technology already in place to be less dependent on oil. This way, we won't have to fight other country's civil wars to make sure they don't jack up oil prices on us. Hmmm.....
[edit] and by jack up oil prices, i'm talking about them cutting us off so that the price goes up and our economy goes into chaos, you know, the whole supply and demand thing...or blackmail..or whatever they call it nowadays.

If we don't rely on oil, we won't have that problem, that's all i'm saying.

5. Education: Stop making requirements so stupid. No Child Left Behind says that you either improve, or we take more money away from you. Hmm, wouldn't you think that if the government took away funding, the school would do WORSE? That's not what the current administration is saying. Anyway, Barack wants to increase funding for schools and dramatically alter the means by which schools get that money (i.e., oh, lets think, if a school is doing bad, how about we give them more money, so they can hire more qualified teachers, and so they can get text books that aren't from 1983). Plus, he wants to increase teacher salaries to make them comparable to other like jobs in the United States. What an idea! Actually paying those people in charge of the intelligence of our next generation! Who wudda thunk it~

Anyway, there are a couple things, and some rantings. Please feel free to comment, I know you would anyway.
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Anonymous

Here is my rant... :), 03-15-07 3:17pm

Yes, we definitely need to get out of Iraq but we do have a responsibility for cleaning up our mess. There is no doubt about that. Improving on health care would be wonderful. Although I wish anybody luck trying to find a way to fix that. It might take a few years if they do set a plan in motion. Icompletely back more funding for Veterans hospitals and the VA system. It takes forever to get anything at all done through them, and can be quite ridiculous. They need to improve upon that.

I disagree with you, though, to a certain extent concerning education. I have seen the misuse of funds at schools and I am disgusted with it. Children are failing and teachers are teaching children how to solve equations the wrong way. I do think that it would be good to hire more qualified teachers, but will that actually happen? There would have to be a federal mandate. You can't depend on the state and the districts to adhere to these guidelines. You can almost depend on the district not to follow the guidelines. I can see them increasing the salaries of people already working there, but I don't know how far that money would go. I'm sorry honey, but I don't think that teachers need much of an increase in salary depending on what classes they are teaching. They get great health care, Christmas break, spring break, mid-winter break, and summer break. They are always complaining about paying $5 for their prescription drugs. That is crap. I'm sorry, but many teachers have it pretty good. And if they get a masters or two they can make close to, or over a six-figure income. They should be happy with that. Maybe a small raise would make them care more, but for many teachers I know, who are making a pretty penny, they still don't care. Many teachers who go into teaching do it for the wrong reasons (I know you aren't and I know that it's not right) but a lot of people, if they realize they can't make it in law school they flunk and go into teaching. It's easy and it pays alright. I know that's how you feel, or why you're doing it. And I am proud of you for going into it for the right reasons. But I've seen too teachers at our school who don't care, and I'm tired of seeing students with potential fail because the teachers can't teach.

There's my rant. :) Please don't take it personally, it's definitely not. I just think that teachers in general are like that. You are not in the "general" category. :)
Jenny

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Anonymous

Re: Here is my rant... :), 03-15-07 3:18pm

[edit] I know that's NOT how you feel, or why you're doing it. Sorry, typo. :)
Jen

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spinder

Re: Here is my rant... :), 03-15-07 5:23pm

I tend to be biased twords psychology in explinations, but I think it all has something to do with the way we treat our teachers culturally.

Which may have something to do with the general decline in their quality.

Which may have something to do with the way we treat our teachers culturally.

They are both correlated for sure, but what causes this, whats the lurking variable? Wait... thats what the debate was about...

*looks away* "Look! A butterfly!"

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m&ms487

Re: Here is my rant... :), 03-16-07 8:54am

I know what you mean about education and teachers getting payed and all that crap. Unfortunately, in Michigan we see the high end of the spectrum. Michigan is second in the nation for paying teachers the most. I believe the average is around 40,000 a year. Teachers at Cedar definately have it good, I mean, there are so many teachers that have been working there a long time and make sixty, seventy, eighty thousand a year. Unfortunately, that's not how it is in all parts of the country, and with NCLB, in drastic cases, teacher salary is based on how well they do on standardized tests. That's like I would get paid at Meijer by how well customers thought I treated them. The angry ones are not going to say I did well, and there a lot of them. There are also a lot of teachers out there that haven't been teaching for thirty years and they only make 25,000 to 30,000 a year. Yeah, you can live on that, but you can't support a family all that well.

anyway, just a few counterpoints :)

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.j.e.s.s.

03-15-07 7:15pm

i seriously love barack obama. i have never really cared about politics because people argue too much and i dont like that kind of stuff. but he has sucked me in and i really really really want him to become president. when he speaks i am like YES YES YES i agree with like everything he says.

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tails

03-15-07 9:38pm

Well his stances seem to be a little wishy washy. id like to see alot more like some actual paper trail evidence and some credentials that prove he is a strong enough man to lead my county. he just seems to WANT to do things or TRY to do things. i havent seen any evidence of anything hes accomplished or put out there. At this point i think he is one of the worst candidates. Hilliary still has my vote.

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Anonymous

Re:, 03-15-07 10:34pm

Hillary carries a big suitcase full of trouble - a/k/a Bill. John McCain has seen it, done it, and has a firm belief in fiscal responsibility and saving lives, as well as working together with the democrats. So what's wrong with working together?
Bubba

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m&ms487

Re:, 03-16-07 8:56am

He's young, yes, but he graduated from Harvard law ( you should read his book, I'm getting ahold of a copy soon) and he's done a lot of work at the state level (government). Just look into it.

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spinder

Re: Re:, 03-16-07 2:37pm

Hillary carries a big suitcase full of trouble? Bill? The fuck did you not inhale!

We need Ole'Bill more than ever! I dont love Hillary a whole ton, but I would love to have bill back as VP. A (Insert your vote) / (Bill ) Clinton 08 ticket!

The public has got to be tired of all this serrious scandle kind of thing. They want a fun VP, not a fat heartattack prone palpatine impersonator.

The president (whomever you like) can be serrious about work - and Bill can provide the nessisary scandle required to keep the average .nothing IQ american voter interested! I even have a campain slogan

" ? / Clinton 08 - Give Jay Leno something to talk about!"

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spinder

Re: Re: Re:, 03-16-07 2:40pm

Serrious? Wtf did I not inhale?

Spelling clause.

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jim9nin

03-16-07 9:07pm

While we need to get out of Iraq. So soon is a bad idea. Unless things drastically improve it's not going to happen. The Iraqis have a foreign idea in their hands right now, and it's called freedom. Freedom to choose what to do when. So long as it's in the right parameters. But having this right is scary to them. And if we pull out before securing this idea for them then the Insurgancy will definatly do all it can to unravel what we've done. The Dems can't see this. And it's a civil way now because of what we've done. Even though it sounds bad for us. Well it's better than it used to be. Also if the Insurgents take the power back then the outcome will be blamed on those who were in charge before the pullout was put into action.

And on the oil subject. I'm glad we've started winning the war in Iraq so we can enjoy the cheap oil. Because $2.50 is cheap. Yeah.

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m&ms487

Re:, 03-17-07 12:09am

Dear, it's been a civil war for the past 2000 years...and yes, $2.50 is cheap when European Countries are paying $7.00 and up

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spinder

"At least its better than it used to be", 03-17-07 3:05am

Was that before we continued support though the al-anfal campain, or after?

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jim9nin

Re: Re:, 03-17-07 10:10am

But it's not really a country's civil war...that one is a religious one. The Arab people don't really care about boundry lines as much as we do. So they see two countries and don't care as much as 2 different tribes.

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gillette

Re:, 03-19-07 8:11am

2.50 is not cheap compared to the american standard. this is the highest it's been ever! maybe a few months ago it was above three bucks for a few days but gas prices are never going down gradually they're always going up!!!! if you ask me, it would seem as if we were losing the war if you compared it to gas prices.

go ahead..shoot back.. i know you want to :)

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m&ms487

Re: Re:, 03-19-07 8:50pm

You're right, compared to the American Standard. We've been spoiled for many a year. Being a Dem, you have to realize that by pushing for withdrawl in Iraq will raise our gas prices. It's going to hurt for a while, but in another thirty years we'll be using some other form of energy, or riding horses everywhere, because there won't be any more crude oil for another few million years.

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m&ms487

Re: Re: Re:, 03-19-07 8:54pm

Their politics are driven by religion, so, yes, it's a civil war in the view of the world, even if they think they are two separate nations, plus, we're trying to force them to become one nation, which they don't really like anyway.

Again, we've done enough damage, and all we're going to do is more damage. Leaving now (meaning withdrawing over a year or two) is the best course of action. They already hate us, and it is debateable whether they'll hate us more if we leave or stay, but I can't help but think that we are imposing ourselves on people that don't want us to. Just because we beat the British didn't give us the right to dip our fingers into every other country in the world's government.

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